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Post by WildlifePaul on Apr 27, 2019 12:28:57 GMT
Chris, Just to confirm, Your female as knocked 2 eggs out the cup and those two are no longer being incubated? Her cup must be really shallow, I have never had anything like this happen. How many eggs does she have left?
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Post by chrisp on Apr 27, 2019 12:29:52 GMT
Yes , I see the difference in the quality Paul. I wouldn’t have believed that the lighting would have made such a difference to the picture quality. Might get LED light next season. Thanks for sharing that.
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Post by chrisp on Apr 27, 2019 12:34:47 GMT
7 eggs left Paul, When she snuggles down in it it doesn’t appear shallow.its just she seems to move the eggs up near the edge when turning them and they just roll out.
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Post by WildlifePaul on Apr 27, 2019 12:40:15 GMT
Lets hope the remaining 7 stay in the cup Keep us posted Chris.
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Post by chrisp on Apr 27, 2019 12:44:49 GMT
Thanks Paul. I shall dread looking each time in case another one is out. I think she may have been a cuckoo in a former life 😂 I’ve got to laugh or I’d cry. I’d like one year with everything going to plan.
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Post by kevin on Apr 27, 2019 13:08:54 GMT
Chris I hope the 7 remaining eggs are safe, keep us posted.
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Post by chrisp on Apr 27, 2019 13:34:14 GMT
Thanks Kevin. I’ve been tying to upload a picture but I must be thick as two short planks. I upload it but I’m not sure where to put it after that. I see it goes to my clip board whatever that is .😩 I’m going to have to wait for my daughter to look at it.
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Post by suep on Apr 27, 2019 14:41:03 GMT
Gosh Chris, let’s hope she gets her act together and doesn’t chuck any more eggs out. You’d think they would push them back in once they notice wouldn’t you? Re uploading photos, it took me ages to master. Keep going I am sure you will eventually manage. Have you read Matts brilliant instructions on uploading? Good luck with eggs and pictures. Sue
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Post by sammi on Apr 27, 2019 15:12:52 GMT
Chris this is a strange how dya do isn't it? I don't think I've heard of it ever happening before. You would think she would notice wouldn't you? Hope the rest stay put
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Post by Ann70 on Apr 27, 2019 15:25:47 GMT
i mastered the inserting of a photo, it took me sometime, but its so easy once it clicks chris you will get it sorted
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Post by chrisp on Apr 28, 2019 8:08:15 GMT
No more eggs out as far as I can see this morning.The second one she kicked out I can’t see any more. I can’t imagine she’s somehow got it, back in the nest cup. I haven’t caught her off the nest lately so I’m not sure how many eggs are there.I suspect the second one is lost in the feathers, The first one I can still see ,right down in the front corner.
I watched her this morning turning the eggs and they come really near the edges , the cup is obviously too shallow caused I think by too many feathers and what I think is cat fur .we have two silver Maine Coons two doors down and I think they’re groomed in the garden. She obviously thought ideal bedding but it’s too soft and has just compressed too much. Oh well I suppose she’ll have less chicks to feed.
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Post by sammi on Apr 28, 2019 8:51:46 GMT
I'm glad no more eggs have rolled out Chris. Interesting about the cat hair. I wonder if first timers don't always get it right? My BT May has been building for over a month now and still makes adjustments to the nest. It will certainly be deep enough and maybe has hidden eggs underneath who knows? Would be an interesting exercise if we all measured the depth of nests at the end of the season but then I suppose the nests have been well trampled down by the chicks and feeding parents by then. I know they all seem to make slightly different nests. Last year we had lots of straw type material first and then the moss. This year it seemed it was straight to the moss.
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Post by chrisp on Apr 28, 2019 10:42:44 GMT
Yes strange how their nests vary. Last year we had a very deep one, could hardly see how many eggs were in it. This time when she’s sitting on the eggs I can see at least one at the side of her. Perhaps if she has a few less eggs she’ll stand a better chance of rearing them as she doesn’t seem to be covering them well. Fingers crossed.
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Post by WildlifePaul on Apr 28, 2019 10:55:21 GMT
I don't think the cat hair will be the problem Chris in my opinion of course, Our females cup is basically just cat hair I put out for her off grooming our cats. Full cup is cat hair and a few feathers, They use the cat hair almost every year here. Never had it cause a problem for them or be to soft or nothing like that.
Just sounds like she's made a cup to small for all the eggs shes laid, Could be a first time nest for her so she doesn't have experience on her hands. I don't believe I have ever heard of this happening over the years on the old forum though. Is the other 7 eggs ok still?
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Post by elle on Apr 28, 2019 14:56:06 GMT
Oh Chris this is sad, I must admit I would have put the egg back into the cup, but I think it would be too late now, you have to wonder if she somehow knows it was not viable!, maybe not fertilised! Good old luck for the rest of them Elle xx
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Post by chrisp on Apr 28, 2019 15:21:42 GMT
I’ve just caught her off the nest. There are 7 eggs in the nest. The original is still bottom left corner . The second one that came out yesterday I can’t see.but there is another one out of the nest top right corner. Totally different position to either of the others. I’m completely mystified. Has she laid another egg or has she got the second egg back into the nest. Wish I could put these damn pictures on then you could see. . The nest is very shallow. Pity I can’t get in there and enlarge it gently with my fingers.
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Post by YorksherLass on Apr 28, 2019 16:59:50 GMT
for the update Chris, at least you know how many eggs are there. Please read Matt's instructions re how to upload photos to this forum.
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Post by elle on Apr 28, 2019 17:06:25 GMT
So you still have 2 eggs out the nest?? Maybe one of those is still the original one & has just been moved around by the motion she does while covering the eggs when she goes out?? What do you feel you would like to do Chris?? Elle xx
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Post by chrisp on Apr 28, 2019 20:10:35 GMT
What I would like to do is get in there quickly and gently try and enlarge the cup. I know that’s not possible as I think it’s illegal and I’d problem scare her off never to return. I’ll just have to hope she manages to incubate at least a few.
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Post by matt on Apr 28, 2019 21:15:32 GMT
I wonder if the removal is entirely accidental, Chris, or if she somehow knows that something is wrong with them? In any case, the fact that they haven't been incubated for a few days probably means that - at best - they wouldn't hatch until a few days after the others, even if they did get back into the cup. That would probably be bad news for the late hatching chicks having to compete with much bigger siblings. I reckon its best to leave well alone but I admit this is a puzzling situation. Would be great if you could post a pic! Try uploading your pics to PostImages and if you are unable to create the link in your post then just post the text of the link and we can edit your post to add the pics.
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Post by chrisp on Apr 29, 2019 8:51:33 GMT
I’m pretty sure she is doing it accidentally Matt. I’ve watched her tuning the eggs, they come up so close to the edge each time I think it’s lucky there aren’t more out. This morning I caught her out feeding and there were 9 eggs in the nest. Didn’t have time to take a picture she was backin too quick. I am totally stumped to know what’s going on. The one that was out on the edge yesterday was back in last night. She must still be laying eggs, because she can’t possibly have got the first one back in .it was right at the front in a corner although I can’t see it. I assume it’s buried under the feathers. Going down to Weymouth today so will ask my son-in-law to show me how to finally put some pictures on. 👍
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Post by kevin on Apr 29, 2019 9:32:37 GMT
Chris definitely a puzzling time. Can’t wait to see some pictures once your son has shown you how to load them.
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Post by chrisp on Apr 29, 2019 10:19:53 GMT
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Post by chrisp on Apr 29, 2019 10:27:33 GMT
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Post by chrisp on Apr 29, 2019 10:32:24 GMT
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